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Perry's Presence Felt At Romney's N.H. Appearances

RENEE MONTAGNE, Host:

Romney has been campaigning hard in New Hampshire this week, and NPR's Don Gonyea has been following him from town to town.

DON GONYEA: If you're going to get bad news in the form of a sudden change in the polls, then it's best to get it on friendly turf, and that's what New Hampshire is for Mitt Romney. At a town hall in the city of Keene, 83-year-old Lucy Opal gushed as she handed him her autograph book.

LUCY OPAL: And I've got lots of presidents in this book here.

(SOUNDBITE OF LAUGHTER)

MITT ROMNEY: I hope you're getting one more. But time will tell.

(SOUNDBITE OF APPLAUSE)

OPAL: You know how I call you? Mitty.

GONYEA: In Keene, the question was put to him politely. Fifty-year-old insurance broker Mike Kapiloff wondered why Romney won't call it a mistake.

MIKE KAPILOFF: If you do mass health care, what's to stop you from doing that when you're the president?

ROMNEY: Well, number one, as you know, I will oppose Obamacare. That's number one. And on day one I'll direct the secretary of Health and Human Services to grant a waiver to all 50 states of Obamacare. Number two, what we did in Massachusetts, I'm not going to apologize for it because it was right for Massachusetts.

GONYEA: That answer satisfied Kapiloff, even as other GOP primary voters, especially those in the Tea Party movement, are still demanding an apology on the issue. Such questions about Romney are part of what has fueled the sudden rise of Rick Perry. But Perry has been a candidate less than two weeks and remains untested on the trail. So Romney's reaction is essentially not to react to him at all. When asked about the new Gallup poll by reporters in New Hampshire, he called Perry an effective candidate but said his strategy is unchanged.

ROMNEY: If you're running for president, your focus should be on the person who is president and his failures and how you're going to make America better.

GONYEA: Unidentified Man: To the next president of the United States of America...

GONYEA: Unidentified Woman: What do you plan to do about Social Security benefits? Do you plan to cut them?

ROMNEY: Who told you that? That I or any other Republican plans on cutting Social Security benefits? Where'd you hear that?

GONYEA: Romney then accused Democrats of demagoguing the issue. Another person in the audience, who described himself as an independent voter, pressed Romney on climate change. Romney has said in the past he believes the Earth is warming and he believes that man is a cause. That puts him at odds with Rick Perry. But in Lebanon, his emphasis seemed more on what he doesn't know.

ROMNEY: Do I think the world's getting hotter? Yeah. I don't know that, but I think it is. I'm not a scientist. Do I think we contribute to it? I don't know by how much.

GONYEA: Over both days in New Hampshire, Romney kept up the attacks on President Obama, and last night in Dover he unveiled a new prop: a giant green digital clock constantly displaying the current national debt. He stood in front of it as he spoke to reporters.

ROMNEY: Appreciate your being here this evening. It's a little warm. What's particularly warm is the speed with which that clock is having to move. We're going to be going across the country talking about the excessive borrowing and spending of this administration.

GONYEA: It's Romney talking about a favorite subject, but with Rick Perry now surging, Romney's focus may have to shift from the man in the White House to the man from Texas. Don Gonyea, NPR News, Dover, New Hampshire. Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR.

You're most likely to find NPR's Don Gonyea on the road, in some battleground state looking for voters to sit with him at the local lunch spot, the VFW or union hall, at a campaign rally, or at their kitchen tables to tell him what's on their minds. Through countless such conversations over the course of the year, he gets a ground-level view of American elections. Gonyea is NPR's National Political Correspondent, a position he has held since 2010. His reports can be heard on all NPR News programs and at NPR.org. To hear his sound-rich stories is akin to riding in the passenger seat of his rental car, traveling through Iowa or South Carolina or Michigan or wherever, right along with him.